Elliott,
Thomas Carlyle &
Lord Houghton
This
research discusses correspondence with the Milnes family, who were
landowners
near Pontefract, and is based on letters in
The first letter poses a problem since
it actually bears the signatures of two dignitaries, namely those of R.
P.
Milnes (1784-1858) & R. M. Milnes (1809-1885). The former was
Robert
Pemberton Milnes, MP, while the latter was his son, Richard Monckton
Milnes,
MP. Richard was a noted essayist & poet who became Lord
Houghton in 1863.
Both father & son were – at different times - MPs for Pontefract
Fryston
Hall.Tuesday
Dear
Sir,
I have had for many years a sincere
wish to be personally known to you. – Will you permit me? – Will you
excuse me
if I ask you to come and see me on Saturday or Monday next to remain
some days?
Mr. Carlyle, whom you know well by reputation and who has shown that he
knows
you, is with me, and would much enjoy your acquaintance: the railway
brings you
to Castleford within two miles of this and I will meet you at the
station
whenever it is convenient for you to come. – You have written many
glorious
things against the corn-laws, I have given votes for it: if in our
talk, you
can show me that its repeal is for the happiness of the many,
you will
get my vote for the repeal tomorrow. Hoping to hear from you, and that
you will
come and see us, believe me, yrs very truly.
Rich’d
M. Milnes
Richard’s
letter was posted to “Ebenezer Elliott, Gen* Sheffield.” Underneath the
Elliott’s address was the signature R. P. Milnes. This is very strange:
two
signatures on the same letter! Richard obviously wrote the letter, but
possibly
Robert paid for the letter & dispatched it – which could
explain the two
signatures. At the time of the letter Richard was the MP &
therefore the
busier man: it would make sense for him to leave posting the letter to
his
father. (* The courtesy title would be an abbreviation for “Gentleman.”)
The letter invited Elliott to meet
Thomas Carlyle, the distinguished writer and critic, who had given
enthusiastic
reviews to Elliott’s “Corn Law Rhymes” & did much to promote
the work of
the (so called) Sheffield mechanic - described by Carlyle as “a red son
of the
furnace.” This is
the first time that a
meeting between Elliott & Carlyle has been discovered. [Treat
this with
caution: when Carlisle was asked to write a biography of Elliott, he
declined
saying they had never met – editor]. The Corn Law Rhymer would have
been
thrilled by the invitation to stay with the powerful MP and landlord
& to
meet the illustrious Carlyle. The letter makes flattering remarks about
Elliott’s
poems on the Corn Laws, and it is evident that the landlord was himself
not
very keen on them either. All of this would be music in the Rhymer’s
ears.
Elliott’s reply to the invitation is
dated April 1841 – barely two months after Elliott had left Sheffield
&
retired to rural Great Houghton, between Rotherham & Barnsley.
An oddity is
that both Richard’s letter & Elliott’s reply were to &
from
Elliott addressed his reply to Robert
P. Milnes Esq., Fryston Hall, near Pontefract. Pontefract was about 12
miles
from Great Houghton, so that makes Elliott & the Milnes family
almost neighbours.
Elliott’s letter to Milnes is a long chatty one & is very
interesting. The
handwriting contains several elaborate flourishes, as though the poet
was
trying to impress. The text of the letter is shown below:-
R.
P. Milnes, Poet
Sheffield
8th April 1841
Invited by “Milnes” to lead him from
the error of his ways, and at the same time, converse, face to face,
with the
great Carlyle – great as a proser, because a poet – it would seem that
I must
accept the invitation. But, Sir, I have been during the last three
weeks deaf
as a post, in consequence of walking in the snow four or five miles,
about
seven weeks since, and forgetting to put off my wet shoes – a result
which
instructs me, that I am old. If I come, at this time, I shall only
trouble you
– or perhaps, vex myself also. I shall not, however; need a second
invitation –
I will use this, by and bye. As to the great Thomas, I will candidly
tell you,
that I dread to see him, lest the man should seem less great than his
thoughts,
and disappoint me. This is an infirmity, but I cannot help it. I am
myself an
infirmity – as I must now shew, (oh that must!) by talking of myself.
Having
retired from business, & paid my debts, I am now getting in my
debts
receivable. On a bit of waste land – purchased, I believe, of your
family – I
am building a little cottage at Great Houghton Common, where I purpose
to live
on about £350 a year – thus verifying Mr Carlyle’s prediction – after
bringing
up 13 children, 8 of them to adult age, and enabling 4 out of them to
earn a
proud though painful living, even in bread taxed England! I could
hardly fail,
I think, to shew you, that repeal of the corn laws would be for your
interests
as a landlord, if you wish to preserve your land, or your life.
And the work-fed millions – Could they
possibly be the worse for more food, resulting from increased
employment &
higher wages? I have long ago convinced myself, that the landlords are
justly
punished for this corn law by their present rental, if, but for those
laws,
their rents would have been doubled, no one calling them “palaced
paupers, or
palaced thieves.” Forgive me! But seriously, if you intend to persist
in your
food-restriction, geld the ladies, (alas you do!) or better still, try
your
hand on the lads first. Oh God! it gratters my gizzard to think of your
strange
suicides. Again, forgive me, Sir, if I must request to be remembered to
you, I
am, Sir, Yours very truly,
Ebenezer
Elliott
Now, there are several other
interesting things about this letter. Elliott’s letter was headed “R.
P.
Milnes, Poet” whereas it was Robert’s son, Richard, who was the noted
poet.
According to the British Library Catalogue, Milnes senior only wrote
one book
which was called somewhat quaintly “Notes of a Tour by Mrs Milnes,
Myself and
Our Daughter from
.
Robert Milnes was born in 1784 &
educated at
Robert Pemberton Milnes was seen as a
man of honour with a biting wit; he was straightforward, agreeable,
clever but
often caustic. His friend, James Spencer Stanhope, describe him as “a
wild,
unstable creature.” He died at Fryston Hall on
New research on Robert has shown that
he owned a considerable amount of land. There was the Bawtry estate
already
mentioned; he had land on the Derbyshire side of
The first line of the letter is
curious. When Elliot says he has been invited by “Milnes,” he must mean
the
recipient’s son who had written the letter. To refer to Robert Milnes
as “Milnes”
would surely have given offence – and here perhaps the inverted commas
are
significant: Elliott must have been referring to a third party: Richard
Milnes
who had written the original letter.
Leading “Milnes” from “the error of
his ways” shows Elliott at his truculent best determined to thrust his
views
about the “Bread Tax” upon the eminent landowner & to convert
him to an
enlightened view.
The poet’s worries about meeting Thomas
Carlyle &
finding him lacking are
very interesting since research into Elliott’s life has missed this
meeting: it
has simply not been recorded anywhere. Carlyle (1795-1881) was
historian,
thinker & social commentator. He was a writer, biographer
& reviewer
who said many positive things about the Corn Law Rhymer’s poetry. The
meeting
of the two literary characters would have been lively and their
conversation
fascinating. It is a great regret that we have nothing from it.
(Interestingly,
Carlyle confided in a letter to his wife that he hoped the Corn Law
Rhymer
& the other invited guests would fail to turn up!).
With reference to the land at Great
Houghton purchased by Elliott, we have already seen accounts1
of how
this happened, but it has not surfaced before that the land was
acquired from
the Milnes family. Twenty years later in 1863, Richard Monckton Milnes
was to
become Lord Houghton. It is very likely that the Lord Houghton title
was named
after the family land held in Great Houghton. (There are several other
places
in
The end of Elliott’s letter is the
usual lament about landlords & the Corn Laws which shows his
single-minded grapple
over many years with the burning issue of the Bread Tax. And yet, the
bard
realises that he has, perhaps, over-done this & uses a down to
earth phrase
– “it gratters my gizzard” to finish off with a lighter touch. The
phrase means
that the subject got on the poet’s nerves or literarily irritated his
stomach!
Having weighed the evidence about
Elliott’s correspondents, we have to conclude that Elliott’s 1841
letter was
meant for the father & not the son. Since the son was a Member
of
Parliament at that time, it is clear that if Elliott had intended to
write to
the son (rather than the father), Elliott’s 1841 letter would have been
addressed
to R. M. Milnes, MP, and not to R. P. Milnes, Poet.
The second letter by Elliott is dated 24th January 1848, near the end of the poet’s life. The letter contrasts with the 1841 letter by its clumsy handwriting & its briefness: the letter was hard work for the ailing poet.
Great
Houghton Common nr Barnesley 24 Janry
1848
D
Sir
I thank you for the invitation with
which you have honoured me.
We are all ill of a stranger cold,
which if it cannot choke old people, knocks them down, and seems
missioned to
rid us. My wife’s sister died of it a few days ago.
If ever you visit this neighbourhood,
I need not say how proud I should be to see under my humble roof in
your person
a true poet – still a “curiosity of literature” in spite of Malthus.
Though the stone, ungratefully
complained of, is not of the best, your hall of Great Houghton, built,
I am
told, of the same material, (from a lower bed,) is not of yesterday.
I
am
D
Sir
Yours
very truly
Ebenezer
Elliott
At least there is no doubt for whom
this letter was intended since it was addressed to Richd Monkton
Milnes, Bawtry Hall, Bawtry. It would be interesting to see the nature
of this
second invitation from Richard Monckton Milnes, the future Lord
Houghton.
Whatever the invitation was for – Elliott fails to accept it, probably
owing to
his poor health at this late stage in his life. Note, too, that Elliott
paid Milnes
a great compliment calling him “a true poet;” this was high praise from
the
Corn Law Rhymer. In offering hospitality Elliott was keen on visitors
as he was
lonely at Hargate Hill & any visitors offered him not only
company but the
opportunity for lengthy discussions of poets & poetry. Again,
Elliott
comments despondently on his health, although this is not surprising
with his
health problems & the recent death of his sister-in-law.
Richard
Monckton Milnes
As
well as entertaining Ebenezer Elliott
& Thomas Carlisle, Richard Milnes had many literary friends
including
Thackeray, Tennyson, Disraeli, George Sand, Swinburne &
Emerson. He even
courted Florence Nightingale at one stage, finally settling down aged
42 when
he married the Honourable Annabel Crewe. He was a clever, inquisitive
man on
the one hand, but he was also jolly, hearty & amusing. A lively
society
figure in
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